Alleged Phone Call Between Obama and Poroshenko

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Alleged Phone Call Between Obama and Poroshenko

As I expected, the content of a telephone conversation between Obama and Poroshenko has been disclosed, which appears to drive them into a corner.  According to this article, only a part of the conversation is in it.  More definitive information might be concealed.

However, the content of this article is enough to put Obama and Poroshenko into a corner.  This is stark evidence of Obama administration’s full involvement with Ukraine.

As shown in this article, Obama has done evil and played such a dirty trick to blame volunteer army (pro-Russian militants) and Russia for everything.  I wonder if you still think him as Light angel or a righteous president who fights against the cabal (the dark Ones).

If he is a righteous person, he would never lie.  If you do a little research on how far Obama has lied, it is obvious that he joins the cabal.  You had better stop being controlled with information manipulation by the media.
Masatoshi Takeshita
July 27, 2014


Excerpt from a Japanese article: GFL Service – July 25, 2014 –

Alleged Phone Call Between Obama, Porky


Rough Translation Of Alleged Phone Call Between Obama, Porky

Note- The Following Has Not Been Substantiated But It Is Worth Considering

Below is a new, today’s article in Russian, *(       ), disclosing a conversation between President and Obama and President of Ukraine Poroshenko on July 22, 2014 at 18-53 – 19-12 European time.

(Note) * The name of Russian newspaper is written in this blank.

The German Intelligence had received a recording of this conversation between President Obama and President of Ukraine Poroshenko on July 22, 2014 at 18-53 – 19-12 European time. Angela Merkel has required not to disclose and to hide this recording. To keep it extremely classified!

According to the article, the Russian Intelligence was able to get this conversation from Germans.  Only a part of a conversation between Poroshenko and Obama is in this article. Who needs the whole translation; please find out people who speak Russian.

I report briefly:

1.     President Proroshenko is blaming President Obama, saying, “Barak, I am upset and disappointed about your behavior… You do not act as we agreed. Before, you have told that the separatists and Russians in shooting down this flight. If you will continue to behave like that, we would not be able to withstand against Moscow…”

2.     President Obama, “Calm down, Peter! We were told that we did not have yet evidence, but we are working on it… We are working in order to make it realYou made a big mistake! You are guilty that you have sent a jet-fighter… Russians have pinpointed your jet-fighter. Now, it would be very difficult to explain to the world for what a reason your jet-fighter has followed the Malaysian flight…”

3.     Poroshenko, “We were not sure that from a land we would achieve this goal… We needed to control and secure it…”

4.     Obama: “I have understood, Peter, but now Russians have one more trump card against us…”

5.     Poroshenko: “What is done is done…”

6.     Obama: “Do you agree, Peter, that this is bad and mistake… This jet-fighter makes problems for us…”

7.     Poroshenko: “We will continue to reject everything… The main thing is that in the future you should not set us up, saying that Russians did not do it. We must say the same; otherwise it would be difficult for us…”

8.     Obama: “We will continue to support you… We are sailing in one boat… Be sure… At the same time, this was supposed to happen earlier as we have agreed…”

9.     Poroshenko: “You know the level of our specialists…”

10.  Obama: “I am worried about these specialistsAre you sure that they would not prate? Russians are already trying to try them out… Try to hide them… If they open their mouth…”

11.  Poroshenko: “I understand! We did that they will never open their mouth…”


Sirs, Please Attention!!!

A.    The officer—commander of an anti-aircraft missile troop was murdered.

B.    The recordings between pilots of the Malaysian flight 777 and the dispater Dnepropetrovsk’s the air traffic control has disappeared…

C.    In the Internet you can find information that the dispatcher of Dnepropetrovsk an air traffic control has disappeared, as well…


12.  Obama: “You must control all of the testimonies of the witnesses; otherwise it would flub up our game…”

13.  Poroshenko: “What is going on with orange black boxes? I have sent to England my specialists to work with Englishmen, but Russians have requested an access to these boxes, to type recorders or how they are named… We must do everything in order to Russians not to have any access to these boxes… This is very dangerous for US and for YOU… Otherwise…”

14.  Obama: “Everything will be Okay! I have already talked with Cameron… His people will do everything we need!




US Intelligence: No Evidence Russia Did It – Paul Craig Roberts

US Intelligence: No Evidence Russia Did It – Paul Craig Roberts

I don’t know why there are two black boxes, either.  Additionally, although the black boxes should have been turned over to the Malaysian government, why are there other black boxes in Britain and Holland?  I have no idea.  Considering the information on British government’s view that “evidence was deliberately tampered with” and Dutch Safety Board’s remark saying that “no evidence or indications of manipulation of the CVR was found,” I suppose that Holland is ready to lie for US and Britain’s experts remain neutral.  If so, it is conceivable that they have planned to have the Dutch side release false information disadvantageous to Russia, subsequently have different information released from different source and finally cause confusion.  Or if the British information of evidence-tampering were true, it is likely that the Malaysian government has already downloaded valid data and turned over the black box to Britain.  In any case, I am a layman and don’t know why there are two black boxes.  I’d like to ask my son’s opinion about it tonight.

Masatoshi Takeshita
July 26, 2014

Excerpt from a Japanese article: OverseasArticles Never Reported by Mass Media – July 24, 2014 –

US Intelligence: No Evidence Russia Did It – Paul Craig Roberts

Source:

Paul Craig Roberts
July 23, 2014

After days of placing hostile blame for the downing of the Malaysian airliner on Russia, the White House permitted US intelligence officials to tell reporters that there is no evidence of the Russian government’s involvement.

We are fortunate that the analytical side of the CIA, in contrast with the black ops side, retains analysts with integrity even after the purge of the agency ordered by Dick Cheney.
Despite this admission by US intelligence officials, the propaganda ministry is already at work to undermine the admission. The intelligence officials themselves claim that Russia is, perhaps, indirectly responsible, because Russia “created the conditions” that caused Kiev to attack the separatists.

The day previously, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf, one of the Obama regime’s brainless warmonger women, angrily turned on reporters who asked about the Russian government’s official denial of responsibility. Don’t you understand, she demanded, that what the US government says is credible and what the Russian government says is not credible!

Rest assured that the owners of the media and the editors of the reporters received calls and threats.
There you have it. America’s free press. The American press is free to lie for the government, but mustn’t dare exercise any other freedom.

Washington will never permit official clarification of MH-17. Today (July 23) the BBC (the British Brainwashing Corporation) declared: “Whitehall sources say information has emerged that MH17 crash evidence was deliberated tampered with, as the plane’s black boxes arrive in the UK.
After making this claim of tampered with black boxes, the BBC contradicted itself: “The Dutch Safety Board, which is leading the investigation, said ‘valid data’ had been downloaded from MH17’s cockpit voice recorder (CVR) which will be ‘further analyzed’. The board said: ‘The CVR was damaged but the memory module was intact. Furthermore no evidence or indications of manipulation of the CVR was found.’”

The BBC does not tell us how the black boxes are simultaneously in British and Dutch hands, or how they got into British and Dutch hands when the separatists gave the black boxes to the Malaysians with the guarantee that the black boxes would be turned over to the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) for expert and non-politicized examination.

So where are the black boxes? If the Malaysians gave them to the British, Whitehall will tell whatever lie Washington demands. If Washington’s British puppet actually has the black boxes, we will never know the truth. Judging from the hostile and unsupported accusations against Russia from the bought-and-paid-for Netherlands prime minister, we can expect the Dutch also to lie for Washington. Apparently, Washington has succeeded in removing the “investigation” from the ICAO’s hands and placing the investigation in the hands of its puppets.

From all appearances, the Obama regime intends to turn the “international investigation” into an indictment of Russia, and the Dutch seem to be lined up behind this corrupt use of the investigation.
Since the corrupt Clinton regime, American journalists have been forced by their bosses to lie for Washington. It is a hopeful sign that in their confrontation with Marie Harf some journalists found a bit of courage. Let’s hope it takes root and grows.

I do not think that the United States can recover from the damage inflicted by the neoconservatives who determined the policies of the Clinton, George W. Bush and Obama governments, but whenever we see signs of opposition to the massive lies and deceptions that define the US government in the 21st century, we should cheer and support those who confront the lies.

Our future, and that of the world, depend on it.